tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8224874.post2391977931781478442..comments2024-03-09T15:04:13.697-08:00Comments on GeneaBlogie: The First GeneaBlogie Challenge--Find This Relation and Win!!Craig Mansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06567686559055003349noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8224874.post-77683374718540859532008-08-03T20:55:00.000-07:002008-08-03T20:55:00.000-07:00George Stafford Jr. is my grandpa. My mom is Joyce...George Stafford Jr. is my grandpa. My mom is Joyce Elaine Stafford my aunt is Katherine, my grandma is Annie Katherine Bland, and my they all still live in Rockport TX. I remember walking into the room where my grandpa was lying dead in his bed. I was only 6 years old. He died May 13, 1985 and my little brother Chris was born May 13, 1986CoreyG9667https://www.blogger.com/profile/10446555638232328161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8224874.post-50417530324731055522007-02-11T12:24:00.000-08:002007-02-11T12:24:00.000-08:00A clue really helps. Once again, I limited myself...A clue really helps. Once again, I limited myself to too few sources - there's a lesson there. I shoulda woulda coulda checked the Aransas County GenWeb site. It's a nice collection of marriage records, and in those records is the marriage of Ida Martin to Nelson Steen on 26 November 1885. <BR/><BR/>A "Find" search on your blog posts for "Martin" reveals the family of Isaac and Amanda Martin, with a daughter Ida and a daughter Amanda, that you are pretty sure is your Maria Martin (who married Guy Bryant), mother of Hattie Bryant (husband?), grandmother of Jessie Bowie(?) (who married Quentin Manson), and great-grandmother of your father.<BR/><BR/>Maria's sister, Ida Martin, is the mother of Martin Steen (who married George Stafford) and the grandmother of George Stafford, who your father "played with."<BR/><BR/>So your father and George Stafford are second cousins once removed, the common ancestors being Isaac and Amanda Martin. <BR/><BR/>Is that an adequate explanation, or do you want a descendants chart for the two lines? I have not copied all of the records, because you obviously have them. <BR/><BR/>Fun work, Craig. I do like mysteries.<BR/><BR/>Cheers -- RandyRandy Seaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17477703429102065294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8224874.post-21198199035861728762007-02-11T09:19:00.000-08:002007-02-11T09:19:00.000-08:00* Isaac Martin ...* Isaac Martin<BR/> |<BR/> ----------------------------------------<BR/> | |<BR/> | |<BR/> * Grandfather Manson Nelson Steen<BR/> * Ida Martin<BR/> | |<BR/> | |<BR/> * Father Manson George Stafford<BR/> * Martin Steen<BR/> | |<BR/> | |<BR/> * Harold Craig Manson * George Stafford JrRandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15084869946907300038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8224874.post-67172526105767633392007-02-10T21:24:00.000-08:002007-02-10T21:24:00.000-08:00Craig,You have Ida Cavanaugh, 6 "Stern" and 1 Cava...Craig,<BR/><BR/>You have Ida Cavanaugh, 6 "Stern" and 1 Cavanaugh child in 1910 in Aransas County. <BR/><BR/>In the 1900 census, Ida "Otten" and 6 "Otten" children, including "son" Martin, age 3, resided in Aransas county TX. When I look at the surname, I see Steen or Stern, and the childrens names are similar to the 1910 list.<BR/><BR/>But that wasn't your problem statement. From the available data, and a two hour flight through the census records, I can't find a connection between your dad and his cousin George Stafford. I can get your dad back through Quentin and Jessie (Bowie?) Manson, and then to Otis and Betty (Sanford) Manson, and then to Matilda Manson. <BR/><BR/>Your data here says that Betty Sanford's parents were Billy and Emily (?) (--?--) Sanford. Their 4 children were Anna, Betty, Catherine and Addie. Addie and Ida might be the same person, but Addie White is with her folks in Milam county in 1900 when Ida is way down in Aransas County.<BR/><BR/>On the Bowie side, I can't find Jessie in the 1910 or 1920 census as a Bowie. I did find her as Jessie Walker in 1920, daughter of Hattie Bryant in Aransas County TX. And I think that Hattie is the daughter of Guy and Maria (--?--) Bryant - found in the 1900 and 1910 census. But I haven't found info on Guy and Maria parents in the census.<BR/><BR/>The only names you've provided on the Stafford side is George and Martin (Green?) Stafford, and Martin's mother Ida (--?--) (Steen?) Cavanaugh. There were two possible parents of George Stafford in the 1900 census, but I couldn't figure which one, or if either one, was the right George and parents.<BR/><BR/>I have tried to find out if Otis Manson, Betty Sanford, Jessie Bowie's dad, Hattie Bryant, Guy Bryant or Maria --?-- had a sister named Ida. That is the most logical connection, but from the info I've found so far, I don't see a sister named Ida. <BR/><BR/>From your cryptic note at the bottom of your post, it sounds like you're saying the answer is in the Manson line.<BR/><BR/>Have I missed something? You have researched this in much detail I know, and have the benefit of all of the family knowledge and research, so I may have missed something obvious (at least to you!).<BR/><BR/>I will await the answer to your puzzle hoping that I haven't embarrassed myself here.<BR/><BR/>Cheers -- RandyRandy Seaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17477703429102065294noreply@blogger.com